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IDProjectCategoryView StatusLast Update
17323Feature requestsAccessibilitypublic2022-04-12 10:07
Reporterritapas Assigned Togalads  
PrioritynormalSeverity@70@ 
Status closedResolutionno change required 
Summary17323: Captchas have no non-visual alternative
Description

actual version is 3.26.4 but it also happens in version 4 from the limesurvey demo site.

Steps To Reproduce

create a survey, configure CAPTCHA in Publication & access control settings

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Bug heat14
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related to 17322 closedpstelling Bug reports Need different time and count for lock out access for token VS admin user 

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ollehar

ollehar

2021-05-25 13:25

administrator   ~64533

What's the desired behaviour? Audio file to read the captcha?

ritapas

ritapas

2021-05-25 13:36

reporter   ~64537

Well, this would surely improve the experience for screen reader users.
I don't know if there are more subtle/sofisticated way to do this but I think an audio alternative would be quite good.

ollehar

ollehar

2021-05-25 13:38

administrator   ~64538

The important part is that it cannot be readable by a computer. :) It was to be visual (picture) and/or audio.

ritapas

ritapas

2021-05-25 13:41

reporter   ~64540

yes, you are of course right!
By the way, some of our other users, instead, have noticed that the captchas are not so challeging and a bit "recurring"... many people, many ideas...

ollehar

ollehar

2021-05-25 13:43

administrator   ~64541

Sure, but a simple captcha is usually enough, until someone decides to target your specific application for hacking. Then it gets hard.

DenisChenu

DenisChenu

2021-05-25 13:43

developer   ~64542

Last edited: 2021-05-25 13:49

https://forum.yiiframework.com/t/remove-ccaptcha-from-the-core/46332

Else in french : https://a11y-guidelines.orange.com/fr/articles/les-captchas-et-l-accessibilite/#honeypot-et-time-measuring-deux-techniques-simples-a-mettre-en-place-pour-identifier-les-bots

Captcha is good only for bots .
Then with https://bugs.limesurvey.org/view.php?id=17322

My opinion : a settings of 1 time with 1 second is good enough for bots.

ollehar

ollehar

2021-05-25 13:43

administrator   ~64543

I think I'd categorize this as a new feature more than a bug, though.

ollehar

ollehar

2021-05-25 13:44

administrator   ~64544

Good link, Denis.

ollehar

ollehar

2021-05-25 13:45

administrator   ~64545

@ritapas Did you consider just to disable captcha for accessibility?

ritapas

ritapas

2021-05-25 13:51

reporter   ~64546

@ollehar I see your point.
Unfortunately we have a LS CE installation on premises and we were requested by the susdamins not to leave "open" surveys.
Of course, if this is a completely new feature to add, and not a bug, we'll try to have them rethink about it.

DenisChenu

DenisChenu

2021-05-25 13:57

developer   ~64548

@ritapas : in 3.7.0 : there are a protection from bot's (protection by IP).

ollehar

ollehar

2021-05-25 13:57

administrator   ~64549

You can use participants? Then it's not open, but also not using captcha.

DenisChenu

DenisChenu

2021-05-25 14:27

developer   ~64550

Oups … right only with token/participant surveys

ritapas

ritapas

2021-05-25 15:07

reporter   ~64552

@ollehar sometimes we need our participants to self-register themselves

ollehar

ollehar

2021-05-25 15:07

administrator   ~64553

Alright. :)

ritapas

ritapas

2021-05-25 15:09

reporter   ~64554

@denischenu it's not easy for us to switch to a new version and make real tests with a look to the webserver access log... I'll wait until we will

ritapas

ritapas

2021-05-25 15:13

reporter   ~64555

where can I find a list of all pending feature requests? Just to avoid duplicates or wrong categorisations

ritapas

ritapas

2021-05-25 15:14

reporter   ~64556

nevermind, I've found it!

galads

galads

2022-04-12 10:07

reporter   ~68998

Since this is not a bug, I will close the report

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
2021-05-25 13:24 ritapas New Issue
2021-05-25 13:25 ollehar Note Added: 64533
2021-05-25 13:36 ritapas Note Added: 64537
2021-05-25 13:38 ollehar Note Added: 64538
2021-05-25 13:39 ollehar Priority none => normal
2021-05-25 13:41 ritapas Note Added: 64540
2021-05-25 13:43 ollehar Note Added: 64541
2021-05-25 13:43 DenisChenu Note Added: 64542
2021-05-25 13:43 ollehar Note Added: 64543
2021-05-25 13:44 ollehar Note Added: 64544
2021-05-25 13:45 ollehar Note Added: 64545
2021-05-25 13:49 DenisChenu Note Edited: 64542
2021-05-25 13:50 DenisChenu Relationship added related to 17322
2021-05-25 13:51 ritapas Note Added: 64546
2021-05-25 13:57 DenisChenu Note Added: 64548
2021-05-25 13:57 ollehar Note Added: 64549
2021-05-25 13:57 ollehar Project Bug reports => Feature requests
2021-05-25 14:27 DenisChenu Note Added: 64550
2021-05-25 15:07 ritapas Note Added: 64552
2021-05-25 15:07 ollehar Note Added: 64553
2021-05-25 15:09 ritapas Note Added: 64554
2021-05-25 15:13 ritapas Note Added: 64555
2021-05-25 15:14 ritapas Note Added: 64556
2021-10-05 08:33 guest Bug heat 6 => 12
2022-04-12 10:07 galads Note Added: 68998
2022-04-12 10:07 galads Bug heat 12 => 14
2022-04-12 10:07 galads Assigned To => galads
2022-04-12 10:07 galads Status new => closed
2022-04-12 10:07 galads Resolution open => no change required